Do you trust apple? Apple icloud is cloud based too.
I just can't see luke as luke anymore, it will be always the runescape character.
1. Clone FOSS Telegram fork from github and build it. 2. Use Private chats to encrypt P2P with simetric key (I think it's AES256, but don't trust me :P) exchanged with DH algorithm. 3. Connect though an VPN/Tor to obfuscate location.
There are more secure alternatives. Sure. But the way we use tools plays a big role in how secure they are. Default mutt+irc is less secure. Riot is less secure. Tormail from chrome/ie is less secure.
The only secure way of communication I know for fact is RSA. And Google Quantum processor is about to change that.
BTW nice i3 🙂
Question: What's the purpose of these messaging apps when every phone has one pre-installed?
Man I really don』t trust you…
time to get the envelopes out again. hopefully they won't open them at the distribution centres
What about Viber?
Just use signal, easy to set up and definitely coveted and open disclosed E2E messenging app.
Discord is pretty much unusable due to shutting down servers and accounts frequently. Haven't had this issue with Telegram. As long as it's not owned by silicon valley, you should be fine. I would prefer it to any messenger owned by Facebook.
I use signal but theres actually a lot of techie people telling me to use telegram instead. I dont get why programmers love it so much
Of course telegram can read their messages… But they are secure to a sense where they won't give away your info
Unless your keyboard is triggered into privacy offline mode, everything you type is leaking to the AI next word suggestion, or voice type service. Regardless of how encrypted your chat message, is I never see messaging service trigger this on keyboards. Browsers do in incognito mode but for most people, your keyboard is your weakest link, especially on phones. Though to be fair, the EULA specifically stated this if people actually read it.
I like how there's no bullshit intro or any "hurr durr like and subscribe" on your channel. I don't need to be told to do those things if I enjoy your content and want to see more. Subscribed. Keep up the great content!
You need to understand the story behind tg, how it's programmed, hosted and funded, and how this relieves them from following subpoenas. Not having to answer to a government is the general blanket of tg security. If you're looking for straight up e2e with fresh keys, they have that too, but it's very inconvenient to have a casual chat with a friend that way which is why it's not the default chat mode. Tg is a very well-polished communication platform, but like you said, the marketing tends to favor a security/encryption aspect when it's so much more.
[sarcasm] Like basically calling yourself a "rapist" since you are a male with a penis? [/sarcasm]
The only difference between Telegram and Whatsapp is Telegram is not owned by Facebook(yet)
A youtuber/ programer / privacy advocate open sourced his IM service. His name is Rob Braxman and i think his website is brax.me ….its free and encrypted, you should check it out and see what you think about it.
I don't nor have i ever trusted anything to be safe / anonymous online so i don't even try. Even if something is somewhat safe right now it's just a matter of time until it's not.
blah blah blah, you are funny ???
Don't trust yourself!!
Can you quote a source on WhatsApp not being end-to-end encrypted? I hear it uses Whisper.
Telegram secured for you by FSB!
The secret chat is what's encrypted e2e without telegram having the ability to read the messages themselves. The only thing Telegram does is generating and sending the key to both recipients when the secret chat is initiated.
Granted it's not open source, it's impossible to sync a secret conversation on a 2nd device, because that 2nd device doesn't have the key generated when the secret chat was opened.
Also, Telegram doesn't have that feature for desktop/laptop, which may be why you're not familiar with it.
All in all, it's really impossible to tell if they really do respect what they advertise for secret chats, and it's definitely not as good as using gpg, but it definitely makes me feel a bit more secure than using an app like WhatsApp
The reason why the end-to-end encrypted "secret chat" is NOT the default for Telegram is, because they store your "normal" messages on their servers to sync them between your devices. Secret chat messages on the other hand are not stored on their servers and are only available on the devices the chat was initiated on. It's a pure convenience > security situation which was deliberately chosen by the devs because they wanted to cater to a bigger audience. ( https://core.telegram.org/techfaq ) I personally think thats a fair point to make. It's better than letting normies juggle their secret keys between devices. All this does NOT mean, that "normal" chats are not secure. They are indeed very much the opposite. ( https://core.telegram.org/techfaq#q-how-does-server-client-encryption-work-in-mtproto ) If you have super secret stuff to talk about or are really concerned about your privacy, use the secret chat feature. Or just dont use instant messaging at all… There will never be a 100% secure and safe solution to instant messaging except for hosting the servers on your own (If you have the money and know-how to run your own SECURE severs). But that opens up other problems like – getting people to TRUST your service – and – getting people to USE your service – Also: Cite your sources.
You just had to demonitize your video by saying CV at the end? xD
Telegram claims "client-client" encryption for "Secret Chats"
It』s worth remembering that at the end of the day, if the end users device is compromised (and it is) then it doesn』t matter if it』s encrypted over the air. Your device will open the message, and that』s when it will be read by the likes of the nsa.
Lots of FSB shills in the comments.
Gonna write letters from now. And yet the postman would know my adress.
Corona virus cough at the end, perfect again! Ahahahahahaha
Perfect
Use your elbow when you cough!!
I can recommend Threema as an alternative to WhatsApp, Telegram etc
matrix is all fun and games as long as you don't run a server yourself ;P (in which case it's fine, just a little bloaty)
:))
interesting part is, that I never find any bots for the secure stuff like Signal… only bots are for insecure, or mildly secure stuff…only stuff like telegram, discord, matrix, IRC (tbh I''d take ssl/tls irc over telegram or such crap any day)
I'm not using Telegram because it's safe, I'm using Telegram because is better and safer than Whatsapp. And end of the story.
But Luke, who will blackmail me with my anti feminist conversations if I have no women in my life.
The secure chat uses MTProto 2.0, which is a solid encryption algorithm, but no one uses the secret chats.
Do you trust apple? Apple icloud is cloud based too.
I just can't see luke as luke anymore, it will be always the runescape character.
1. Clone FOSS Telegram fork from github and build it.
2. Use Private chats to encrypt P2P with simetric key (I think it's AES256, but don't trust me :P) exchanged with DH algorithm.
3. Connect though an VPN/Tor to obfuscate location.
There are more secure alternatives. Sure. But the way we use tools plays a big role in how secure they are. Default mutt+irc is less secure. Riot is less secure. Tormail from chrome/ie is less secure.
The only secure way of communication I know for fact is RSA. And Google Quantum processor is about to change that.
BTW nice i3 🙂
Question: What's the purpose of these messaging apps when every phone has one pre-installed?
Man I really don』t trust you…
time to get the envelopes out again. hopefully they won't open them at the distribution centres
What about Viber?
Just use signal, easy to set up and definitely coveted and open disclosed E2E messenging app.
Discord is pretty much unusable due to shutting down servers and accounts frequently. Haven't had this issue with Telegram. As long as it's not owned by silicon valley, you should be fine. I would prefer it to any messenger owned by Facebook.
I use signal but theres actually a lot of techie people telling me to use telegram instead. I dont get why programmers love it so much
Of course telegram can read their messages… But they are secure to a sense where they won't give away your info
Unless your keyboard is triggered into privacy offline mode, everything you type is leaking to the AI next word suggestion, or voice type service. Regardless of how encrypted your chat message, is I never see messaging service trigger this on keyboards. Browsers do in incognito mode but for most people, your keyboard is your weakest link, especially on phones. Though to be fair, the EULA specifically stated this if people actually read it.
I like how there's no bullshit intro or any "hurr durr like and subscribe" on your channel. I don't need to be told to do those things if I enjoy your content and want to see more. Subscribed. Keep up the great content!
You need to understand the story behind tg, how it's programmed, hosted and funded, and how this relieves them from following subpoenas. Not having to answer to a government is the general blanket of tg security. If you're looking for straight up e2e with fresh keys, they have that too, but it's very inconvenient to have a casual chat with a friend that way which is why it's not the default chat mode. Tg is a very well-polished communication platform, but like you said, the marketing tends to favor a security/encryption aspect when it's so much more.
[sarcasm]
Like basically calling yourself a "rapist" since you are a male with a penis?
[/sarcasm]
The only difference between Telegram and Whatsapp is Telegram is not owned by Facebook(yet)
A youtuber/ programer / privacy advocate open sourced his IM service. His name is Rob Braxman and i think his website is brax.me ….its free and encrypted, you should check it out and see what you think about it.
there's riot.im and matrix network
I don't nor have i ever trusted anything to be safe / anonymous online so i don't even try. Even if something is somewhat safe right now it's just a matter of time until it's not.
blah blah blah, you are funny ???
Don't trust yourself !!
Can you quote a source on WhatsApp not being end-to-end encrypted? I hear it uses Whisper.
Telegram secured for you by FSB!
The secret chat is what's encrypted e2e without telegram having the ability to read the messages themselves. The only thing Telegram does is generating and sending the key to both recipients when the secret chat is initiated.
Granted it's not open source, it's impossible to sync a secret conversation on a 2nd device, because that 2nd device doesn't have the key generated when the secret chat was opened.
Also, Telegram doesn't have that feature for desktop/laptop, which may be why you're not familiar with it.
All in all, it's really impossible to tell if they really do respect what they advertise for secret chats, and it's definitely not as good as using gpg, but it definitely makes me feel a bit more secure than using an app like WhatsApp
The reason why the end-to-end encrypted "secret chat" is NOT the default for Telegram is, because they store your "normal" messages on their servers to sync them between your devices.
Secret chat messages on the other hand are not stored on their servers and are only available on the devices the chat was initiated on.
It's a pure convenience > security situation which was deliberately chosen by the devs because they wanted to cater to a bigger audience. ( https://core.telegram.org/techfaq )
I personally think thats a fair point to make. It's better than letting normies juggle their secret keys between devices.
All this does NOT mean, that "normal" chats are not secure. They are indeed very much the opposite. ( https://core.telegram.org/techfaq#q-how-does-server-client-encryption-work-in-mtproto )
If you have super secret stuff to talk about or are really concerned about your privacy, use the secret chat feature. Or just dont use instant messaging at all…
There will never be a 100% secure and safe solution to instant messaging except for hosting the servers on your own (If you have the money and know-how to run your own SECURE severs).
But that opens up other problems like – getting people to TRUST your service – and – getting people to USE your service –
Also: Cite your sources.
You just had to demonitize your video by saying CV at the end? xD
Telegram claims "client-client" encryption for "Secret Chats"
https://core.telegram.org/api/end-to-end
just use Signal
Don't touch your face!
Your face reminded me I need to shave my junk.
It』s worth remembering that at the end of the day, if the end users device is compromised (and it is) then it doesn』t matter if it』s encrypted over the air. Your device will open the message, and that』s when it will be read by the likes of the nsa.
Lots of FSB shills in the comments.
Gonna write letters from now. And yet the postman would know my adress.
Corona virus cough at the end, perfect again! Ahahahahahaha
Perfect
Use your elbow when you cough!!
I can recommend Threema as an alternative to WhatsApp, Telegram etc
matrix is all fun and games as long as you don't run a server yourself ;P (in which case it's fine, just a little bloaty)
:))
interesting part is, that I never find any bots for the secure stuff like Signal…
only bots are for insecure, or mildly secure stuff…only stuff like telegram, discord, matrix, IRC (tbh I''d take ssl/tls irc over telegram or such crap any day)
I'm not using Telegram because it's safe, I'm using Telegram because is better and safer than Whatsapp. And end of the story.
But Luke, who will blackmail me with my anti feminist conversations if I have no women in my life.
The secure chat uses MTProto 2.0, which is a solid encryption algorithm, but no one uses the secret chats.