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PS5 Reveal是一个错误

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马克·塞尔尼（Mark Cerny）有趣地揭示了PS5规格，但它的深度太深了，这使得微软针对Series X的方法现在看起来更具吸引力。

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  2. Team Nintendo + Xbox

    Sony has dropped the ball SO HARD with the PS5 for me that no amount of games or exclusives could win me over at this point. I’m a graphic designer, so these kinds of horrific failures at marketing are an insant turn-off, ESPECIALLY given the most recent events.

  3. Sony’s deep dive talk consisted of:
    40 minutes spent talking about SSD’s
    5 minutes spent talking about 10.3TFLOPS when overclocked in boost mode
    15 minutes spent talking about 3D audio.
    Let’s be honest here. The whole Sony talk seemed like how to downplay a far lower GPU spec machine. Did anyone need to hear 40 minutes about SSD’s? No.

  4. At the end of the day what is important are games. Backwards compatibility is nice but for me what is important are brand new games.

  5. you fucking idiot

    this was a GDC talk, specifically for developers. GDC was cancelled so they just put it online instead.

    this is not aimed at consumers or even general games press

  6. The presentation was horrible, they should wait another week or two. They should hire YouTuber do their presentation. This how should done it, showcase their music history of playstation and games by year. Next have all playstation lineup different heights rise up from floor new playstation 5 or shot of new unit on round table. Someone walk on stage in blue suit, hey what think about new playstation 5. Showcase even product with high level of excitement. Xbox new going do well, they just need great games.

  7. Not sure if he missed this or something but the Xbox does have a custom compression and decompression hardware, that turns the 2.4 gbs to 4.8 gbs, really it's not far behind the ps5

  8. Cerny's presentation was a technical spec reveal aimed at developers that was meant for GDC before it was canceled it was not aimed at gamers it was supposed to be in depth, funny though that all you assholes wanted the PS5 specs and they gave them to you and yet your still finding reasons to piss and moan. Your video is a mistake.

  9. If Xbox winning in sales had to do with having the most powerful console spec-wise to the market, then the Xbox1X would be the best selling current gen console. I've always bought a PlayStation console because of the games…mainly so it's exceptional first part titles. I don't factor in multiplat titles as they can be played anywhere. Sony has yet to disappoint with its first party games, and until that day comes I am making my purchase where the great games are ??‍♂️.

  10. Was hoping Sony would help me make a big decision about next gen and they did…

    Ill be laying Series X horizontally. Thanks Sony.

    Joking aside, Cerny is brilliant.

  11. These are enthusiast machines. Anybody now getting into console gaming will be getting a switch or a PS4. Anybody buying a PS5 would have had a PS4. I don't see many PS4 owners jumping to Xbox and the ones who didn't jump to PS4 are the die-hards.

  14. the xsx wins everywhere and anyone who wants to aruge that are clear fanboys. xbox built their console like a desktop pc and ps5 built it like a laptop. the reality is stable clocks are ALWAYS better than having to work with peak clocks based on power budget and thermal constraints. the reality of ps5's storage too is its really not that big of an advantage of xsx, yes it is def faster but anyone with a pc can tell you the difference between a sata ssd a 600 mbps and an nvme drive at 5000mbps in real world use case is barely noticeable. I fully expect in 99% of cases you wont see at more 2 seconds difference between load times with both consoles. them 56 cu gpu ,means xsx will have a significant boost in ray tracing performance as even with specialized hardware raw compute performance does effect fps in ray tracing. I also think many developers don't need 16 threads to get good performance and xbox allowing 8c/8t at 3.8ghz will definitely be used by many developers to push fps on xsx. idk I run a ps4 pro now but honestly I need a good halo game and infinite looks incredible as does the spec of xsx. it looks to me like a laptop compared to a desktop if the prices are close im going xbox at launch. I will eventually but the other console as I always have had both but at launch xsx unless its stupid expensive. also expandable storage sold by Microsoft is a clear win that allows the same experience across all games and allows customers to easily have 10tb of storage and just swap cards, brilliant and this generation needed something like that badly usb drive suck and they always have.idk im excited everyone is going to win reguardless of choice but xbox looks like the winner to me. now all we can hope is the both stay at or under 500$

  15. I don't care that Sony didn't show the PS5.It's still too early in the year when they have First party games coming out this year..this video is crap like the rest of them. PC and PS fan here i dont need a xcrap,their games is gonna be on PC

  18. 8:20 what are you talking about? 3D Audio has existed since 2016 or 2017…
    the PlayStation Platinum headset supports it, and most if not all PSVR titles support it…
    in fact, even a bunch of first party and regular multi-platform titles support it… i've experienced 3D Audio on Monster Hunter World…

  19. I understand your opinion, but for completely different reasons. It was not a system reveal. It was a GDC (game developers) technical design presentation. Should they have shown it to uneducated mass population? No. That was a mistake. But it was not a system reveal event. Will Sony do a proper system reveal event? Let’s hope so.

  20. Xbox is going out of there way to put out big numbers and I'm not buying it. To those of u wondering how much these numbers matter. How many great looking xbox one x exclusives did xbox release? And did the x actually make that much of a difference? I'm going to say no and just FYI I am mostly a PC player but just my opinion consoles should stop pushing numbers they wont use. If they will actually utilize teraflops sure lets go for it, but The xbox 1 x was more powerful than alot of mainstream GPUs and they never took advantage of it and its kinda misleading and bad marketing. We dont want 4k if u cant push 60. Give us an option and lets shoot for 1440p 60 fps or more on everything

  21. Idk what kinda reveal it was but its just a warm up hopefully they will show and give a lot more exitment but ivw cooled off for now 😀 Mark Cerny video is on and have a good night guys Zzzzzzzz

  23. Can someone explain why backwards compatibility is a big deal though? I thought the point of new consoles was to play newer and better looking games.

  25. I am a Sony Fan boy!!!!! But I think PS5 is going to do a Pro versión or the PS4 Pro! Lol…. And XBOX is really putting out there a next gen console! I think this next Gen Im gonna have to change to XBOX

  26. Doest even care about backward compatibility it would be better for me if it's not backward compatible because I already have ps4… and the specs are pretty nice, probably will be priced at $450 which is a good deal. The biggest advantage ps5 has is it's exclusives. So not in my life I am buying Xbox. I am all okay with PlayStation and pc.

  32. Im gonna get both so i dont even care i love both of them. Both companies are both good so just saying ima get both

  33. Series X output is a solid and consistent 12.15 teraflops, and according to digital foundry, with use of the SSD expansion slot, will go much higher as computation will be enhanced with the 2nd drive and variable ray shading. On the other hand, ps5 had variable clocks and will sit around 9 teraflops, not the 10+ number Mark Cerny fraudulently gave in his presentation. Sony's SSD may be quick, but, the GPU and CPU are slow, and will create a bad bottleneck issue. Also, tech specialist Austin Evens has said Xbox Series X is 20% more powerful.

    Xbox's profitability this current gen; Xbox made billions more profit, including roughly 8 billion more in profit the last 2 years. Add to that, ps4 outsold Xbox One over 2 to 1 and yet Xbox has millions more Xbox Live subscribers then Sony has playstation plus. Add to that psvr's failure (under 5% attachment rate is definitely a failure), and having nothing remotely comparable to Gamepass.

    Other reasons why Xbox Series X is superior are:

    *Xbox has always had superior online infrastructure

    *Xbox has always had the overwhelming consensus best controller in gaming

    *the announcement that if you subscribe to Gamepass Ultimate not only do you get access to over 200 games, but the DLC for all of them as well

    *the fact that MLB the Show is coming to Xbox so for the sports fans, there will actually be a good baseball game for the first time in a decade. Sports fans no longer have to buy a playstation just for baseball.

    *Xbox has actual back compat all the way to the OG Xbox with HDR that works with games that have never even had HDR in them, while ps5 just has access to a few dozen ps4 games using emulators.

    *Xbox has 1TB of storage, plus storage expansion that you can actual use, while ps5 has 825GB, and no options for storage expansion.

    *Xbox will encourage free upgrades to next gen version of games with Cyberpunk 2077 already on board, while Sony will very likely make it's users re-buy better versions. I mean, that's what they have a history of doing after all.

    Xbox Series X is clearly the superior option. It's really not debatable. Sony has really dropped the ball, and hasn't really been competitive since Xbox One S was released. When Phil Spencer says the best place to play is Xbox, it's not just hyperbole. Sony continues to hide everything about the ps5. No form factor, no controller, no real information besides an overly long presentation trying to convince the public their specs aren't inferior. It didn't work.

  34. ''PS5 Reveal''… They'll do that later on this year when they have the actual console to show, controllers, announce some launch titles, sneak peak on how it's actually running some games, do a more casual event in general. This was clearly an early indepth presentation about the specs in the system targeted for developers, while also giving finally some information to the public.

  35. First things first, I’m not associated or have any affiliations to any console brand, my comment is just because I hate when people entitle themselves to facts that clearly are not facts or are completely biased.
    This Sony PS5 “Presentation” as you call it, was not a presentation per se, more so it was not a reveal, this was meant to be for an exposition about PS5 hardware and specs directed to developers, investors, and stakeholders. ?‍♂️

    Not general public, it was streamed because Sony thought it would be a good idea for everyone to se it (here is where I think they dropped the ball) regarding backwards-compatibility let’s be honest is cool to be able to play older games on a new console, but when games like Spider-Man 2, god of war, uncharted, last of us, etc start to drop no one will remember Xbox again, even though I believe MS strongest feature is not their console, but x cloud and game pass.

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